Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Minister, we do not take up cudgels at this point in time for this exercise about the transformation in the BEE requirements. What we are saying is that if you compare Canada with South Africa - and we don't dispute the fact that there might be relevant and similar legislation - look at the facts and the figures. Canada's profit has increased - I'm talking off the top of my head, Madam Minister - by between 40% and 70%. Our increase has been 16%. There is clearly a big disjuncture between the South African position and the Canadian position where in terms of Australian law they ... [Interjections.]