Deputy Speaker, I don't know what the answer to the second part of the question is. I think it is important that we understand that the norms of the Employment Equity Act are not optional. They must be complied with and the compliance involves moving the power from the shareholder compacts to the Department of Labour and that is where the enforcement happens.
I am pretty sure that all of the state-owned enterprises also have boards that oversee this and there would be reports on the instances contained in the annual reports of each of the state-owned enterprises. So, the targets will vary - some of them are more dependent on high-level, scarce skills. But all of the facts are readily available from the independent annual reports.