After I phoned him that evening about the passing away of Mme Caroline, he said: "No, I was supposed to phone, I am also in hospital." I said: "Hawu Ntate Diale, you are in hospital?" He replied: "Yes, I was in hospital in Polokwane and they have transferred me to Number 1 Voortrekkerhoogte, and that's where I am now." The very next day, I went to see Ntate Diale and I was reassured that he was going to be well because he gave me that very famous firm handshake, and I realised that he was still himself.