Well, the Minister brought the Bill in September, when she had been a Minister for four and a half years. So, that is very long after she should've brought it, and that's the truth. [Interjections.] There is no other reason for this failure, and the Minister should own up to it, and all South Africans, including those in the gallery, should know the truth about what happened to this Bill. [Interjections.]
Chairperson, let us talk about the issue of co-operatives. The hon Steyn and the hon Van Dalen did not argue that co-operatives themselves were unconstitutional, as the Minister has suggested in her speech. I am not sure if she heard them correctly. What they said was that forcing every fisherperson in South Africa to join co-operatives in order to get fishing rights is unconstitutional. That is quite a different point. You are forcing these people to join co-operatives when all they want to do is to be able to legally make a living. Now they have to deal with audited financial statements, members' interests, sharing of boats, annual general meetings, etc. [Interjections.] More than 90% of co-operatives in South Africa fail - more than 90%! We hope that in this sector the success rate will be higher, but the fact is that in order to make the success rate higher, co-operatives will need substantive support. The Minister has admitted today that she doesn't have the budget to support these new co-operatives. She has R100 million, and she needs R400 million to even begin to make this piece of legislation work. She said in response to the hon Steyn's question: "Don't worry; we will find the money." That is very, very hollow when you need R400 million to make things work. [Interjections.]