Hon Deputy Speaker, I think the Deputy Minister has been able to answer the misquotation by my friend, hon Bhanga, on the number that the department intends to achieve with regard to artisan development. The point I would like to raise in this regard is that the department, as part of the artisans' advocacy campaign, must rally the state-owned companies and other public entities to contribute to artisan development in the country if we are to achieve our goal of 30 000 artisans in terms of the National Development Plan. Thank you.