Hon Chairperson and hon Ndlovu, thank you for the question. I think we need to point out that many of the criminal matters that occurred since January 2013 may not have been finalised by the National Prosecuting Authority and the investigators as yet. Therefore, an accurate figure may not be possible at this stage. However, I can provide the hon member with the number of police officers who have been fired as a result of crimes they committed in the 2012-13 financial year. The number is 449 members.