Chairperson, in the little time available, I just want to respond to two points. Firstly, I want to make a few points around the point that has just been made by the hon Radebe. I think the question is that under apartheid and colonialism race was a concept which underpinned policies, programmes, disadvantagement, underdevelopment and exclusion. That's a fact.
These policies had a generational and intergenerational impact. The fact is that the effects are still with us, and we have to respond to those effects. The fact that people were discriminated against on that basis gives us a way of saying that those people who were discriminated against on that basis are the people we need to affirm through black economic empowerment, BEE.
I just want to say that the other proposal of trying to establish the currently disadvantaged, I think we would have to surmount tremendous hurdles with a huge amount of red tape - which the party on my left does not support - for people to establish their rights to the programmes of support and affirmation. That is why I think we have to continue with that definition.
Secondly, what I want to say in response to the point made by Mr Koornhof is that I am very happy that he didn't say that we should have the sunset clause now, because I think when we do have a debate on that issue, the question will be how we are going to set an artificial timeframe and say it will be installed by such and such a date, and whether or not it will transform the economy, or is the closing point when the economy starts to represent and reflect the demographics of the people of the country? That's the issue that I think we have to deal with.
Otherwise, I want to thank everybody for their contributions. I want to make a small contribution to the "Know Your DA" campaign. While they told us that they support BEE now, in 2003 they opposed it. I don't doubt the sincerity of the hon Wilmot James, but I wonder whether this has more to do with electoral opportunism than anything else. Thank you. [Applause.]
Debate concluded.