Hon Chairperson, I join you in your words about hon Trollip. A maiden speech is like a farewell speech. In both instances you don't get rough. You have a lot of sympathy and so on and niceties. The hon Trollip started it all. He became very aggressive. I think that he has really made it difficult for all of us. I wish to thank all members who participated in the debate, both sides of the House. We drew insight from what you said. Thank you very much.
Mhlekazi uTrollip ndicela uyeke ukuyithetha into yaseMuyexe eMusina ngathi yinto yayizolo. Le nto isemapoliseni ngoku kwaye ayikho into esingayenza ngalaa mntu kuba ubalekile waya eMelika. Laa mntu wayiba imali wemka, kwaye ngoku ayiselilo ityala lesebe ingelilo netyala lalaa mama, ngulaa mntu isela, umkile qha. [Kwaqhwatywa.]
Kukho lo mba uhlupha kakhulu. (Translation of isiXhosa paragraphs follows.)
[Hon Trollip, I beg you to stop talking about the issue of Muyexe in Musina as if it happened yesterday. This issue is with the police now and there is nothing that we can do about that person, because he fled to America. That person stole the money and left, and now this is neither the department's nor that woman's fault; the thief is that person, and he is gone. [Applause.]
There is this worrying issue.]
It worries the members of the DA, particularly, this thing about the trust board, the Ingonyama Trust. It worries them. Do you know why? Hon Chair, hon Trollip said that I lied here about the audit. A member of this House can't lie to this House. I repeat, here we are. The hon member is worried about the Ingonyama Trust, because if you look at KwaZulu-Natal in terms of land ownership, the balance between private and state ownership is equal, and it is because of the Ingonyama Trust. He is worried about that. All of them are worried about that because it is actually beginning to take land away from private hands to government hands and that is worrying the hon members. We have completed the audit. It is true. I knew the hon Trollip would not be quiet about it. Here it is again.
Last time we spoke about it, we said that it is 111 000 portions of land that we sent back for verification. It has been done. Here it is again, confirming exactly what we are saying. We know now.
Siyayazi ngoku. Nalo mhlaba useMpuma Koloni athetha ngawo ozizizigidi ezi- 3,5 zeehektare siyawazi. [We know now. We also know about that land in the Eastern Cape, the land he is talking about, which is 3,5 million hectares.]
It has been surveyed. NgowaseTranskei. Sizazi zonke iiBantustan ezazilapha, zezenu; zazenziwe nini. [It belongs to the former Transkei. We all know about the Bantustans that existed, they are yours; you created them.]
We could only understand and know what is happening because we have done the audit now. [Applause.] The next step that is going to follow now, according to the policy of the ANC, is to deal with land because we are starting to understand the basics. No government before the ANC ever conducted a land audit in South Africa. [Applause.] It is the first time, and it has been done by the government of the ANC ... [Interjections.] Yes, it is.
Uza kuyifumana kwaye ... [You will get it and ...] ... it is going to worry you, by the way, when you get it. [Interjections.]
Regarding the issue about Minister Radebe, I can't answer for him. Government has agreed. The policy is coming through and you will have it. The Land Management Commission, in terms of our proposition to government, will be chaired by a serving judge. That is our proposal. We want it to be an institution of integrity to follow up on these things that relate to land ownership in South Africa. It is coming. Wait for it. It is coming to this House.
The hon Trollip says that there are no new farmers. I got a report just over a week ago from KPMG. It talks about 1 296 farms that have been recapitalised and are productive. [Interjections.] Those are black farmers. Some of them are sitting there. Hon Trollip says that there are no new farmers. He is saying to this House that it must speak the truth, and he was not telling the truth here.