Never! Not a single moment. [Interjections.] This one! Do you know the reason why? He cannot sit in a kombi for an hour next to me. [Interjections.] This member! At one stage, hon members will remember he said the mining house should hire a helicopter for us so that we could move from one mining house to another. [Interjections.] We said "nonsense" to this member. [Interjections.]