We are coming to that - can't you listen? Comrade Minister, on a similar note the sports committee has fought hard for the franchise of the Eastern Province Kings. The idea was to unearth black rugby players - Africans in particular. But that is not happening. We must talk about these things and not talk about them in the corners. Let us raise them here. Anyone can phone me and I will answer that as well. [Applause.]
Hon Minister, the other problem we have is that of sponsors. Sponsors are very selective and I can understand that. Also, you can't make them sponsor a federation that cannot handle its issues. Sponsors go to where there is financial discipline. If you can get that right, we will get there.
I want to call upon the ladies present. You usually go to those places where you do your hair, nails and other things. Speak with the owners and tell them there is a netball team or women's hockey team and that they should sponsor them. [Interjections.]
Hon Donald, I will talk with you when you are alone, because I don't want you to cry. [Laughter.]
Let me quickly touch on this issue of rural areas. Minister, I'm coming to the 5% which you say you will make a point of it to be there for equipment in rural areas like Nxadule and all the other places. That must happen as there is talent there, Minister. Look at this, hon Minister. [Interjections.]
Hon Mackenzie, Where did you get your mvovo [nectar from the flowers of an aloe]? You got it from the rural area. [Laughter.] Tell the truth! [Time expired.]