Lastly, let me say ... [Interjections.] ... in relation to the BEE codes that I sat with Mr Dangote on a panel debate that was televised, and he did express some concerns about BEE. However, when we explained the direction that we were trying to move in with regard to BEE, using it as a tool to promote entrepreneurship, I think he then had a different view. [Interjections.]
Dr James referred to the flamingo with regard to me, reminding me that I was in that scenario. The flamingo takes off steadily, steadily. [Interjections.] As it gains capacity, it is poised to go much, much higher, and much more solidly. That is what we are doing in the DTI. That's the programme we put before the country and I am happy and proud to be associated with it. Thank you very much. [Applause.]
Debate concluded.