Hon Speaker, if the hon member is not selective in getting to know what the President says he will know that I have been making this call for a long time. I started making it long before the mine strikes, when the workers were marching and protesting. I have made this call very strongly and I have continued to do it. I also made it at the mines. It was not the first time. [Interjections.] I have been making this call all the time ... [Interjections.] ... because it is not acceptable that when people protest or strike, they undermine the rights of other people who are exercising their own rights. This is what I have been saying, and I will continue saying so.
I have not said anything about people who talk about the ungovernability of the Western Cape because I don't exactly know what it means. [Interjections.] Absolutely ... [Interjections.] ... unless you explain it to me ...