Hon Speaker, I think there is no contradiction between my position and that of the President. The President's argument on that day was against the apparent exclusion of anybody who is remotely known to a member in public office being excluded from pursuing any opportunity, regardless of whether they were involved in such fields or not prior to the relative assuming public office.
So, we must always try to draw a distinction between the constitutional right of South African citizens to engage in meaningful economic activity, correctly so, and the manifestation of conflict of interest. Corrupt conduct occurs when those of us who have knowledge because of the positions we hold use such knowledge for our personal advantage. There would then be a conflict of interest, and that the President does not countenance. So, the way I understood the point he was making, he was speaking to a different point and not saying that there is nothing wrong. Where there is conflict of interest, there is conflict of interest, and it should not be allowed to happen. Thank you. [Applause.]