Deputy Speaker, I rise on a point of order: The point, as hon Kilian would know, is that the Rules do not allow us to deal with the matter, because it would prejudice the Minister, but also because it is before a committee of Parliament. If hon Kilian - because I think it is incorrect for her to be having a dialogue with a presiding officer during a meeting - had a problem, she should have discussed it and gone directly to the Speaker so that this matter could have been dealt with there. So, I think she is out of order in terms of how she is dealing with the matter. [Interjections.]