Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Hon President, I can remember that time because I was also an MEC, and the two words that were used in KwaZulu-Natal when it came to dune mining were ``sustainable development''.
But, having said that, Mr President, you did say to the hon Swart that if we are to provide energy, somebody will have to pay. And I would think that when the PICC looks at what they have to do and looks at financing models, one of the models that they will look at is the user-pays principle. Now what we need to be assured of, as citizens of this country - you and I, and the millions out there - is that there is value for money when these projects commence, because from commencement to the end, there has to be value for money. This is because if the user has to pay for a particular product - for example, we will use the e-tolling system - if it costs R5 a unit, let's not employ somebody and give them another R5 to collect the original R5, making the cost to the consumer R10. So, what we need to know is that you, Mr President, will ensure that there is absolute transparency from the start of a project to the end so that it is cost-effective for the citizens of this country. Thank you.