When the Companies and Intellectual Property Registration Office, Cipro, was here, you had one of your film-star people come here and do so much on Cipro. Then he was deployed - I expect it is because his star shone too brightly. [Laughter.] The reality is that we recognised this ages ago, and so did the Minister. He said, look, we have to do something radical. We must get rid of all of this. What did he do? Very much like the Augean stables issue, he brought in a huge hosepipe, if you like, and cleaned the rubbish out.
So, now we have the Companies and Intellectual Property Commission, or Cipco and let me tell you that this has been described as "an international plus". There are things in that piece of legislation that Europe is now following. Who would have thought that Europe would be learning from us? [Applause.] But they are, and you all know it. [Applause.] That has been great progress but, of course, every time the DA gets a real understanding of these issues, their party redeploys them, because they think they have been co-opted by the ANC. [Laughter.] I don't know - I have never seen so much in the way of musical chairs in my life. [Laughter.]
As a last point, there are many areas that we need to look at. Many members in this House will often say: "Oh, look, we need to pursue the United States' approach to do this and that" or "We need to be more robust, more sound, more accountable." Then, the moment you mention state intervention, it is, "Oh, state intervention!" - never mind the fact that Europe and the US have nationalised most of their banks. One thing they all realised, and this is the Minister's mantra - I got quite sick of it myself, but it's quite important [Laughter.] - there is absolutely no doubt that no country in the world has ever achieved economic growth and development and become economically independent, with an understanding of interdependence, unless they have industrialised. That is recognised in the US, Cuba, China and Germany. [Interjections.] I want to tell you that the Germans are looking at us and at our model because they see that our model is a people's participatory parliament. [Applause.]