That is fine. [Interjections.] Chairperson, today I am standing here again to convey condolences on behalf of Cope, this time to a former colleague and freedom fighter, Rev Chabaku. She was a very committed and dedicated freedom fighter.
I can recall that when the first Free State government was put together by Mr Lekota, he decided to appoint Rev Chabaku as the Speaker of the legislature. The Free State province had so much confidence in this minister of religion that they decided to send her to Cape Town to represent them, and she was sworn in as a member of this House. That shows clearly the deep trust and confidence that the ANC had in this fallen hero. When you go around the Free State today, you will still hear people referring to her, not as "Reverend", but as "Speaker".
Rev Chabaku had a very good heart and cared for people. I was listening to a clip on the radio after her passing, in which she was talking about the hardship she went through during the apartheid days. It was very painful to listen to what that child of God had to go through. But one thing that I will take with me from her is that she never carried hatred against her oppressors. Instead she taught us to forgive them.
Without doubt the Free State and Gauteng have lost a giant - I see that the Premier of Gauteng is here. [Interjections.] I want to say to the family, friends and colleagues of this stalwart of the people of South Africa, we express our heartfelt condolences to them. May her soul rest in peace. [Interjections.]