So you could try now and then to give people accurate information when you speak.
I just want to end by talking to Cope's hon Kilian. There is a book that says if an organisation or institution has existed for a long time, it stands a chance of existing for an even longer time, because it has existed chronologically, year after year, like the ANC has for a hundred years. It not only existed year after year, it changed from generation to generation. It is not easy to change generations and generations of leadership or to change ideas and have different ideas. Therefore, if it can survive all that, then it stands a better chance of surviving.
Now, I am surprised because Cope never existed ... [Interjections.] ... not even for a year ...