That isn't what you said. Will you all take your seats please! Let's resolve this issue right here. Will you please take your seats? Will you all sit down for a moment? Those members at the back there, will you please take your seats. Will you ask them all to come back? Mr Mufamadi, please ask them to come back. Can you take your seats for a moment please?
I would like to rule on the issue right here and now. I think, Mr Kganare and the Minister, I in the Chair cannot be an arbitrator of what is correct and what is not correct, or what is supposed to be truthful or not truthful. That is my ruling. [Interjections.] You can't hear me? [Interjections.] What I'm saying is that I in this Chair cannot be an arbiter of what you are saying happened and what the Minister is saying happened. So in that case I'm not taking your point of order. Thank you.