Thank you, Chair. No, I was saying, hon Kilian, that in the ANC, we have the national executive committee but in Cope, you have the entity for life. Again, hon Kilian, you missed a lot during the SABC strategic plan presentation. The group chief executive officer elaborated too much on the issue of editorial independence. She took the committee further on the systems going forward. You were not there and so it's not our fault. Maybe you were busy nursing your president after he fell from the bicycle or you were chasing Shilowa. I don't know. [Laughter.] Where's Shilowa? So, that's not our problem. [Laughter.]
Hon Mncwango from the IFP, I think all that you have said today ...