It is a point of order, Madam Chair. This is a matter of integrity and the Minister is impugning on the integrity of an hon member. She should stick to the subject of the debate, Chairperson. [Interjections.]
It is a point of order. You may not impugn the integrity of another Member of Parliament in this House, Chairperson. [Interjections.]
The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY AND FISHERIES: Hon member Van Dalen, if you say that we are beyond ignorance, is that not questioning my integrity and my intelligence? The National Development Plan is a draft plan; it is not a policy of government. How informed are you?