Hon Greyling, this is the third time I hear you make this point in this august House, and I think you deserve a straight answer.
Chancellor House is a company. It engages in economic activity in and outside of South Africa. Ideally, it should not do business with government at all. [Applause.]
In the case of the example you have cited, Chancellor House invested its money in Hitachi Africa without knowing that Hitachi Africa is Hitachi Africa. [Interjections.] [Applause.] They did not put their money in Hitachi Africa to produce boilers for Eskom. Hitachi Africa got the contract later ... [Interjections.] Yes.