I am not going to take anybody on this topic anymore. Hon Chief Whip, you were asking what the member is saying. You were asking a question to the member who was speaking, so the first thing you should have done was to find out if he would take the question. That is what you did not do.
Hon members, hon Mfundisi is an old new member. It is his maiden speech today, but he knows the Rules of this Parliament. Welcome back, hon Mfundisi.