Okay. I think, Mr Speaker, we are well aware of the differences in costs. Recently it was publicised what the difference in costs is in both the private and state hospitals for circumcision or male genital mutilation.
We also know that, for example, many people prefer to go to private hospitals. Even my old friend, the late Harry Gwala, chose a private hospital before he would go to Grey's Hospital, which was a good state hospital.
My question to the Minister is: Would the Minister not consider three examples of public-private partnership hospitals in the Eastern Cape which are extremely well run as examples of places where private medicine and state medicine work together very constructively? They are the hospital in Humansdorp, the Settlers Hospital in Grahamstown and the hospital in Port Alfred.