Chairperson, I accept and agree with the answer given here.
However, as the committee on co-operative governance and traditional affairs we have been going through section 139. We have given the department a lot of recommendations, both at provincial and national level. That is why we are asking for details now, so that they can beef up our understanding of whether or not work has been done. In most municipalities it is not happening. We are not asking about what is happening at the national and provincial level. We are saying that that is the situation in regard to local government. I think that the Deputy Minister is not providing that particular answer. I would therefore like to get some answers in so far as that is concerned. That is because the North West, for example, was in a mess before we went to the local government elections. The beautiful province called ... [Time expired.]