j. There was overcrowding at Frere and Cecilia Makiwane Hospitals. k. The issue of not having a proper family planning clinic was raised as a serious challenge. The hospital was dealing with unplanned pregnancies and had to do 4000 terminations every year. The doctor indicated that even those patients who delivered their babies, had not planned their pregnancies. Mr Mosana urged the Committee to look at the whole health system and to consider the issue of having an onsite midwife unit at both Frere and Cecilia Makiwane hospitals.