Speaker, there is a popular perception, particularly in the very poor rural municipalities, that salaries for senior management can be rather generous compared to what's being delivered. However, there is another concern, which is my question to you, that generally remuneration, salaries and so on often constitute too high a percentage of operating budgets. To what extent does the department share the view that this is a serious challenge that needs addressing, and what is the department doing about it, that is, constraining salaries and remuneration costs to a reasonable figure?