So many people are afraid of Malema that they will even talk about him when I am talking about the environment. This obsession about Malema, please! I am talking about the tail wagging the dog. The tail, which in this case is the Western Cape, must wait for national legislation on land use management. [Applause.] It's coming. This ANC-led government is in, otherwise you will formulate a law and later on we will just say, "Please, just throw it in file no 17." So, please let's wait.
With regard to waste management licensing and the regional landfill sites, it is not always going to be a given that we are going to conclude that a landfill site must be regionalised because there are pros and cons. So, again, evaluations will be done to determine which one is the best.
Regarding the water tariff and Salga, we are in the process right now of reviewing that programme. We would like to work with you and everybody else throughout that programme, because we do believe that there is a need to look at that. By the way, we have found that the cost of water is very high, on the contrary. So, we must find a solution somehow to alleviate the problems that our communities have.
In conclusion, the issues of bulk water infrastructure and the shortage of water for our communities that we see glaringly every day, we have located within the broader planning of the department. As I said, we are now moving towards providing water in a full cycle - a cycle of water from source to tap. So, with regard to the issue of bulk water infrastructure shortage in that even though there are pipes to take water to the people there isn't bulk infrastructure, is a thing of the past, as we go forward. This includes the Nandoni Dam because it was a dam constructed with no pipes. Later on the pipes were faulty and then faulty again, and so on.
Therefore, this whole infrastructure with Salga will conclude a whole plan. As a matter of fact, we said last week at a joint meeting with our municipalities and provinces that we would develop a national plan for water infrastructure and cost it, no matter how long it took us, as long as we knew that certainly this was where we were going as a country and that we were providing water from source to tap.
I want to thank you very much. Environmental matters are really all in your hands. Legislatures, let's play a role. We can be the determiners of the outcome of every COP if we get the citizens' voice through the hon members here, not only in South Africa, but even in countries like America that are giving us a hard time. Let's hear the voices of the people. We thank you for the support. We hope that South Africa will get a very, very good outcome from COP 17. Thank you, Chair. [Applause.]
Debate concluded.