I agree with Comrade Tau on the issue of co-operative housing, particularly as far as the youth is concerned, so that we are able to empower the youth effectively. The provision of housing, with regard to the projects, is not only there for skills development but, at the end of the day, they must be at the centre of the economy. We agree with that process and we urge provinces to give us targets in terms of job creation. That's number one.
But all provinces must tell us how they are mainstreaming the youth, women and people with disabilities, because at the end of the day 80% of the budget comes from national level to provinces. It must be quantified in terms of value and the impact it makes on people in the economy. To the DA we say that you can see their approach in the fact that they have a cabinet of males. There is no caring in terms of the people who have painful experiences on the ground. They think, "It's a waste of money to give houses to the poor because they won't be able to pay for the services. We'd rather give to those who already have." That's the thinking of the DA. You can never have that thinking in the ANC.