I continue to engage all legitimate farming organisations to ensure that we work together in confronting the remaining challenges for the sector. Therefore, in respect of all smallholder farming institutions, we must have a permanent consultative forum to facilitate this partnership. I cannot meet you in a fragmented fashion and on a one-on-one basis. Some of you will be surprised what they say to me when they are alone. They don't want to say these things in public. [Laughter.] I don't mean anything personal; it's all about my portfolio. [Laughter.]