Madam, can I just say that he referred to eight provinces controlled by the ANC. [Interjections.] But that is what I am talking to, Madam ... [Interjections.] ... which I'm sure I'm entitled to. [Interjections.] There is another one just over here.
But what I am saying is: those eight provinces carry the weight to decide whether there will be a transport future for South Africa or not. And for a trading country, we cannot operate without mobility of people and goods.
So, what I call for, in conclusion, is that we need to have a strategy. Gautrain is not a strategy. It is an indecent waste of money on the already rich of South Africa. I want to tell you: the Gauteng freeways are an indecent waste of money on the already rich of South Africa. What about the people from Soweto who must travel in? What about the people from Khayelitsha and the South East? [Interjections.]