I have forgotten the past. We have seen universities trying to help with regard to these shortages.
There is one challenging aspect, which is the interface between the public and the private sectors. We have not done very well in looking at the private health care system, but this is something that we probably have to work on; not in a bad way, but in a way that makes sure that everybody gets coverage.
There is another challenge, Minister, which I think we should have a policy on. We talk about resistance to the antiretrovirals, but we should consider the resistance to antibiotics. It is so easy for every doctor to prescribe antibiotics, but that causes a problem for the whole country. In fact, I include myself; if somebody tells me that they have flu, it's so easy for me to prescribe antibiotics. We are going to reach a stage where we are not going to have any antibiotics that work in South Africa if we don't develop a policy.
Even the veterinary surgeons need to assist us, because they give antibiotics to animals, we eat the meat of those animals and so we end up eating the antibiotics. When we make that policy, we should make sure that we combine it with a policy for veterinary surgeons.
Madam Chair ... [Laughter.] ... another challenge is that of the traditional healers in South Africa. [Interjections.]