Regarding the transfers to the different SOEs, R680 000 was appropriated for sponsorships (R678 000 spent), R129.1 million for Alexkor, R208.5 million for Infraco, R191.9 million for Denel, R1.738 billion for SAA and R1.549 billion for SAX. Dr Shaw presented a detailed breakdown of expenses in each programme. One of the challenges for Programme 1 (Administration) was the creation of the Deputy Ministry office. There had been some shifting between programmes in order to manage the business plan. A breakdown of the major expenditure items under goods and services was also presented. An amount of R14.2 million had been spent on travel and subsistence allowances but this was small in proportion to the size of the DPE. The amount of R51.1 million for consultants and special services was covered in the business plan.