On the question of Denel's collaboration with universities and further education and training (FET) colleges, Denel had found that there were quite a few skills within the company that had been depleted over the past 10 years. Denel has now found itself assisting universities to keep some sort of capability that would help Denel retain skills that were in demand. Denel was forced to collaborate with universities due to this depletion of skills. The Committee wanted to know the names of the universities with which Denel was collaborating. The Committee requested Denel to report back to it once Denel had obtained the information.