On rural areas that are not yet electrified, Eskom would be looking at ways to accelerate the electrification, especially in schools and clinics. Electrification was the responsibility of the Department of Energy, and Eskom was just the agent who was directed by local, provincial and national government as to where it must electrify. South Africa would not achieve universal access without increased funding from government. The Committee agreed to set up a joint meeting with the Portfolio Committee on Energy around the issue of rural electrification. Mr Dames noted that illegal connections remained a big challenge for Eskom and the country. New technologies had to be looked at, and it was essential to work with communities. With regard to labour issues at Medupi and Kusile, the CEO explained that there was an agreement with organised labour, which regulated payment and hours and other issues, and there had been a massive reduction in labour unrest. With regard to non-Eskom learners, Eskom acknowledged that it had not met the target, but pointed out that the figures did not include all its bursary holders. There were more than 4 500 learners who were being trained. Mr Dames welcomed the comments on the FET colleges and said that Eskom would work more closely with them in the future, especially around experiential learning.