On the route between Durban and Cape Town, SAA had not been making money from this route, as there was no demand for business class seats. The removal of SAA's aircraft from this unprofitable route allowed them to be used on other routes where frequency could then be increased. Ms Mzimela noted that SAA had lost in excess of R100 million a year on the Durban route. With regard to transformation challenges, the Committee was informed that challenges were mostly in the pilot and technical areas. SAA had, however, re-introduced its Cadet Pilot Programme and had successfully been running a technical training programme through which it had employed 200 people. The airline was aware of the need for transformation and was making progress in this regard, particularly through its internship and graduate programmes. At leadership level, 37% were African, Coloured or Indian (ACI) and 37% were female. The South African Air Force would, in addition, be supplying the airline with cadets who would become pilots with the airline. All of these were African, Coloured or Indian. Of the 15 pilots employed this year, seven were African, Coloured or Indian, while there were nine additional pilots in these categories ready to be employed. There were also 200 apprentices in these categories.