I will trust him, not you. I also want to respond to this issue of immigration practitioners. You know ...
... kunabantu abaningi abanezincwadi zemvume, kodwa uma ubuza ukuthi bazithole kanjani lezi ncwadi ngoba abanazo izimfanelo ezidingekayo ukuze babe nazo. Athi umuntu: "angazi nami nganikeza laba bantu bangenzela." Siphinde sibuze ukuthi sizathu sini owasinikeza ukuze uyithole? Athi umuntu: "angazi, yibona ababhala konke, mina angazi lutho." [Ubuwelewele.] Yebo, kunjalo. (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)
[... there are many people with permits, but it is strange how they got them because they do not meet the necessary requirements. A person would say: "I also don't know; I gave it to these people and they did it for me." And we further ask: "What reason did you give in order for you to get it?". A person then says: "I don't know. It's them; they wrote up everything; personally I don't know." [Interjections.] Yes, it's true.]
That's why ... sithi ababelulekele ngangxanye. Kodwa, lo muntu ofuna incwadi yemvume, akazizele yena ukuze uma kukhona esingakuzwa kahle simphenyisise. Manje simatasatasa sinikeza izincwadi zemvume kubantu esingabazi noma bakhona yini lapha eNingizimu Afrika noma basazofika. Ngakho-ke, angeke sikuvume lokho. [Ihlombe.] (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)
[... we say they should advise them aside. But the person who wants a permit must personally come so that we can thoroughly investigate him or her. At the moment we are issuing permits to people, but we don't know whether they are inside the country or whether they are still coming. Therefore we can't accept such a situation. [Applause.]]
You must understand that we, as the ruling party, also have the interests of South Africa at heart, not only the DA or opposition. So, why would we do things that were detrimental to South Africa? [Interjections.] They are not. [Interjections.] So, that is going to remain, and we are going to reinforce it.
Every South African who wants a passport comes to Home Affairs, but foreigners don't have to come to Home Affairs. We don't see them. Every person who wants an identity document comes to Home Affairs. So, why should the nationals have to come to Home Affairs, but the foreigners don't ever have to appear there? It's not going to happen. [Applause.]
I also just want to say that the advanced passenger processing is something we have already implemented during 2010. It is just that it was voluntary; it was not in the law. Now we are putting it in the law. We were able to process 2,3 million visitors, and we took three seconds to process them. The reason for that is that all you need is to scan their passports and it tells you whether they are on the police list, the Home Affairs list or the Interpol list. It's something that was successfully implemented, Mr Mnqasela. So, we are not going to relent. And the airlines came to the party voluntarily. Since it was not in the law, we could not force them. They came voluntarily, and it was successful.
I just want to say that in any case we didn't expect the DA to vote for progressive legislation. [Laughter.] In their previous life: you can go back and look at the records: they never voted for any education transformation laws in this country. They opposed every single one of them. [Interjections.] Go to the health laws ... [Interjections.] In your previous lives, before you were recycled ... [Interjections.] ... you opposed every single health law, including free treatment for children under six. You opposed that policy. [Applause.] [Interjections.] Yes, he stood up here and opposed it. [Interjections.] I am not fabricating this, he was the spokesperson. He opposed it. [Interjections.]