Speaker, I hear you and I wish you well in terms of studying the Hansard, but I stated it as I feel it.
We are being told that we do not have persons who are competent to serve in a range of positions, both in government and in state-related institutions. We are presented with a notion that, somehow, in the City of Cape Town and the Western Cape provincial government, ANC people are filling the offices and positions there. Well, we would want you to take a walk, hon members, to those offices and see whether you will find an ANC member. [Interjections.]
Mention was made of the fact that there is good governance, etc. Well, Mr Nzimande was asked whether he takes a drive to Gugulethu. I do take a walk to Khayelitsha from time to time. And I can tell you that you may think it is good governance when you are on Long Street, but if you go to Khayelitsha and you see Nomsa Mapongwana, you will not say there is good governance in the city or in the province. [Interjections.]
Jaanong, mmueledi wa rona yo o tsereng setilo se segolo mo Ntlong e, ke batla gore go na le batho ba bantsi ba e leng gore fa ba eme fa, ba rata go ganetsa gore mmuso o, o dirile. Batho bao, o fitlhela e le bona ba ba itseng gore fa ba tsamaya Aforika Borwa yotlhe, fa ba kopana le ntlo e nt?ha e agilwe ke mmuso o, fa ba bona sekolo se sent?ha se agilwe ke mmuso o, fa ba bona sepetlele se se nt?ha se agilwe ke mmuso o, ba a itse gore mmuso o, o a dira. Ba a itse gore kae kapa kae kwa o gatang teng o tla fitlhela ANC le koo e dirile. Ba batla go se ganetsa seo, mme nnete ga o kake wa e gana! Nnete e bolela se se leng teng. [Legofi.] (Translation of Setswana paragraph follows.)
[Speaker, I would like to say that there is a lot of people who like to disagree that this government has worked when they are standing here. You'll find that those people are the ones that know when they travel the rest of South Africa, when they see a new house, a new school and a new hospital, all built by this government, they know that this government is working. They know that wherever you go you'll find out that the ANC has also worked there. They want to disagree with that, you cannot oppose the truth! The truth tells what is existent. [Applause.]]
It is, of course, impossible for them to really stand up and say it is absolutely true that this government has indeed made a difference.
And, of course, you can only speak of density if you were never assaulted with teargas. You can only speak of density if you didn't spend a day in exile. You can only speak of density when you never sat in a cell and were being beaten. You can only speak of density if your child was not taken away from you when you were thrown into a prison cell.
If you had experienced that, you would repeat that word until the conditions existed where the inequality is totally eradicated, and every person believes that indeed the basis for their lives to be transformed has been achieved. That's when the word would become dense. Thank you. [Applause.]
Debate interrupted.