Chair, in terms of the first statement about what proper sanitation is: It varies, that is why the figures even say 1 300 don't have water and sanitation, but 500 have sanitation. It means we are using other methods of sanitation.
Sanitation is not only waterborne sanitation. We have pit latrines and all other forms of sanitation in schools; and those we count as sanitation, as long as they are functional. They serve the purpose and are hygienic, so it's different forms of sanitation.
In terms of how much it's going to cost us to address the needs of this 130 000 schools, we've worked out the costs for just those 1 000 schools for water and sanitation and it's going to cost us more than R4 billion. That's the money we are looking for just to deal with water and sanitation.
The major problem is that these schools are in areas where there are no bulk services. It means we are bringing water to areas where there's no water in the whole community. That is why even providing them is much more expensive than you'll do in an area where there are bulk services provided by the municipality. But the latest cost was just in excess of R4 billion to deal with these 1 000 schools.