Deputy Chair, of course, in every municipality it is expected of and it is incumbent upon that institution that it take disciplinary action against people who have violated the rules of the game. That is happening in regard to this issue.
The question that was raised was: Are there any statistics on people who have been dismissed by one municipality and employed by another? Therefore, the hon member is putting a new question completely concerning the issue that we are raising here, but to us it is immaterial; we'll respond to it. That is why I'm saying from our point of view that the issue that has been raised by the hon member is that this has been taken to all the people who have violated the law. In fact, we are looking at monitoring the situation, because we are saying that we want to stop a situation where you are employed by a municipality, you commit a crime - which is a problem - and then you are employed by another municipality. We want to ensure that, not only in the municipalities but also in other spheres of government. We are saying that the employees who undermine government by whatever action must be blacklisted and not be employed by government again. Thank you.