Hon Deputy Chairperson, once again, in regard to the response, the intentions of the Minister and the government are very good, but in reality, in terms of the evidence that we've got, it's not working, and it's not going to work in the future.
Referring to the Expanded Public Works Programme Phase 2, EPWP P2, let me say it's good. It's a good initiative - it must be co-ordinated and it can work. But in regard to the second one, of co-operatives, I want to ask the hon Minister if he's aware that only 12% of co-operatives in South Africa are functional. Now the department and the Minister want to try to convince us that to stimulate the local economy it would be better to start new co- operatives. The question is, do we need more co-operatives or don't we need better partnerships with private entrepreneurs and the sectors in the local towns? Thank you.