Deputy Chairperson, through you to the Minister: Minister, you know that economic and industrial development don't benefit all our people. Only individuals benefit out of these frameworks. What else can you come up with so that the broader society will benefit, because all that we have benefits only an exclusive few people?
You referred to the capacity of local government, which can't even raise its own revenue. It is true. But when the new demarcations are considered, economic hubs in the different municipalities are not considered when we come with our proposals in our demarcations.
Do you know that in a country like France their system has a bridge to close the gap between those who have and those who don't have? If you cross the bridge, and you can be economically sustainable, then you are able to help assist someone else. But in South Africa, because we have this culture of nonpayments and handouts, to me it clearly seems we are going to need another 20 years to change, to have an impact at the local government level.
I also agree that maybe a solution, and one system of services to the public, might partly be pooling skills so that you can deal with the issue of nonperformance in local government. Thank you very much.