Deputy Chair, on the issue of the ward committees - I think that is your question - being undemocratic, I am not sure how you define democracy. Do you define democracy as something that must be in the legislation, in terms of calling for elections, or do you define democracy as something where people are consulted by and large, and where they choose to come, or not to come if they do not want to come? It is part of democracy, because you can choose to go to a meeting or not; choose to vote or not.
Let's take the local government elections. The average in terms of voter turnout is 48%, which is less than 50% plus one when we talk of a simple majority. Are you saying then that all the councillors that there are are undemocratic because of the voter turnout that is 48%? The point I'm putting across here ...