As I said, hon Watson, it is so that whatever product emerges from that enjoys the collective wisdom of the parties that are here. In that way, it can go a long way. But I say, let's not isolate local government. Let's look at the whole system comprehensively so that when we make changes, we make them once and not in a piecemeal fashion. If we have that discussion, we are willing to engage on that with pleasure and therefore will be able to take the process forward. Thank you very much, Deputy Chair.