Ek het eintlik gepraat oor die plaasmoorde en ek het vir die agb Minister ges dat ek saamstem dat ons nie plaasmoorde moet verpolitiseer nie. Ons kan egter ook nie ontken dat daar wel 'n politieke motief is vir plaasmoorde nie. Ek sal binnekort vir die Minister die bewyse bring. (Translation of Afrikaans paragraph follows.)
[Mr P J GROENEWALD: I was just talking about the farm murders and I was telling the Minister that I agree that we should not politicise farm murders. However, we cannot deny that there is indeed a political motive for farm murders. I will shortly bring the Minister proof of this.]
I will prove to you that politics is, in some cases, a motive.
Ons sal dit binnekort beskikbaar stel.
Ek wil kom by die ander aspek wat gaan oor vuurwapens. Die agb Minister het 'n onderneming gegee en ges dat daar in die amnestie periode ook geleentheid sal wees vir vuurwapeneienaars om te herregistreer. Dit het nie gebeur nie. Die situasie van misdaad in Suid-Afrika vereis dat wetsgehoorsame burgers hulself moet kan bewapen.
Ek kan vir u baie gevalle noem waar burgers slagoffers van moord sou wees, as hulle nie hul vuurwapens by hulle gehad het nie. Mense skaf vuurwapens aan om hulself te verdedig. Ek het die agb Minister gevra hoeveel misdade gepleeg is met wettige vuurwapens en hoeveel misdadigers wettige vuurwapens gebruik het. Minister, u amptelike antwoord was dat u nie vir my kon s wat die syfer is nie.
As ons nie weet wat die syfer is nie, moet ons nie stellings maak dat die wetsgehoorsame burgers met vuurwapens die oorsaak is nie.
Laastens wil ek vir u s dat die polisie vertroue by die publiek moet inboesem. Dit is op rekord ... [Tyd verstreke.] (Translation of Afrikaans paragraphs follows.)
[We will make this available soon.
I want to come to the other aspect, which concerns firearms. The hon Minister gave an undertaking by saying that there would also be an opportunity for owners of firearms to reregister during the amnesty period. This did not happen. The crime situation in South Africa requires that law- abiding citizens must be able to arm themselves. I can mention many instances where citizens would have been murder victims had they not been carrying a firearm. People acquire firearms in order to protect themselves. I asked the Minister how many crimes had been committed with legal firearms and how many criminals had used legal firearms. Minister, your official answer was that you could not tell me how many.
If we do not know how many, we should not make statements to the effect that law-abiding citizens with firearms are the cause.
Lastly, I want to tell you that the police are supposed to inspire confidence with the public. It is on record ... [Time expired.]]