Thank you very much. We need to have the courage to look differently at the entire funding of Eskom. We need to establish an Eskom 2. This is an opportunity to create a competing company which will bring about efficiency and address the type of problem Dr Van Dyk identified with Eskom. We need to have an international tender. Let us open the doors for funding from abroad.
I stand with the hon Nhanha. There is still an apartheid mindset here: a survivalist mindset which will not allow foreigners to invest in what has been determined to be a strategic interest of the country. This is one of the few opportunities we have to attract fixed long-term investment.
Lastly, this is a good department. It's a department staffed with good, intelligent and hard-working people. I stand with the Minister in that respect. Yet, the President is establishing a committee of outsiders to determine what this department should be doing. [Interjections.] It should be the responsibility of this department to take hard look at why we own some of these SOEs. [Interjections.]
The reason why we have to pay for the land restitution claim of Alexkor is because we own it. But, why do we own it? The answer is missing. Why do we own Denel? There is another R2 billion of contingent liabilities, which we have not approved and are not part of the debate on. Yet, these are part of our liabilities and the liabilities we are enforcing on the South African people. Why do we own Denel? [Interjections.] You have spoken. You said very little when you did, so allow me to speak. [Interjections.] [Laughter.]