Agb lede, daar is 'n verskil tussen fluister en praat, en sommige van ons tref nie daardie onderskeid nie. [Hon members, there is a difference between whispering and talking, and some of us do not make that distinction.]
Heckling is acceptable, but when an hon member keeps on talking to the extent that I can hear him or her from where I am, that is not acceptable when another hon member has the floor.