Thank you, Chair. We as a government ... I was talking about imports and exports, but I think we need to ... [Interjections.] I said it, and I said it in Afrikaans. I thought you understood. [Interjections.]
What I am saying here is that I don't know who was monitoring the reports from the South African Revenue Service, Sars, to check imports and exports, and at what stage this was done. But I have made it my responsibility - hon Minister, you know that. I am sitting on those reports, and I'm also looking at what we can produce.
I have been to a number of provinces. Some of the things I have said and wanted to say can be touched on later; I think I must use my remaining two minutes to say the following:
We cannot say much about small, medium and micro enterprises, SMMEs. When we mention them, some of our colleagues talk about it as "grassroots economics". But even the scholars that the Minister mentioned, people like Joseph Stiglitz, say that a country that leaves its people behind is a country that is definitely going to fail. So, we need to make sure that those SMMEs succeed, and they can only succeed if there is incubation. We need to make sure we stay with them until they know how to use the public purse. We need to make sure that the money given to them comes back and trains other people.
This does not mean that we want a person to jump from one department to the other - registering an SMME, not producing, going to another department ... We are going to make sure that all departments speak to each other. When you are Gwen Mahlangu who goes to the health department, you should be Gwen Mahlangu at all the other departments. If people go to another department, we will find them and make sure they don't access the public purse repeatedly.
In conclusion, I want to say that we need to encourage our provinces to profile themselves. We need to know what we have in the provinces, even at ward level, so that the interventions address their actual problems.
As I went around the country, I saw a number of skills centres not being used by anybody right now ...