Thank you, hon Minister, we appreciate your response. I can assure you that some of the things that you have said are already in our framework plan for the whole five years, particularly the implementation of the legislation and vigorous engagement of the departments. Your progressive support to the NCOP and your willingness that we start with your department is noted, so that other Ministers can see that it is doable and I can assure you ... [Interjections.] Order! Louis, hlala phansi! [Louis, be seated!] [Laughter.]
We will make sure that our chairpersons in the strategic plans have got all that you have mentioned in their plans and it's recorded in the Hansard, and the Minister could actually check and follow up whether we are doing those things. We promise you, we will do it.
Asihlabi kuphela ezitediyamu, kufuneka ithele nempepho phela, ukuze iBafana Bafana iphumelele. Asibetheli, yingakho bengaphumeleli, kufuneka sibethele. Yisintu sakithi leso. Siyabonga kakhulu-ke mhlonishwa. (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)
[We are not only slaughtering in stadia, but we need to burn impepho [traditional incense] as well so that Bafana Bafana can win. We do not perform traditional rituals for strengthening the stadia and warding off evil in the stadia, and that is the reasons they are not winning - we must do it. That is our culture. Thank you very much, hon Chairperson.]
Debate concluded.
Question put: That the National House of Traditional Leaders Bill be agreed to. That concludes the debate. I shall now put the question. The question in respect of the first Order is that the Bill be agreed to.
As the question is dealt with in terms of section 65 of the Constitution, I shall first ascertain if all delegation heads are present in the House. Are all delegation heads present?
In accordance with Rule 71, I shall first allow provinces an opportunity to make their declarations of vote if they so wish.
We shall now proceed to the voting on the question. I shall do so in alphabetical order per province. Delegation heads must please insert their cards in the machine. I see there are new delegation heads; please show them how to do it.
Before I call the vote in, please press button 1 to confirm your presence. There should be lights flashing. If not, the Chamber staff will assist you.
We shall now commence with the voting. When I call the the name of the province, the delegation head will vote by pressing button 4 for those who vote in favour, button 2 for those who vote against and button 3 for those who abstain.
Have all the provinces voted? If any of the members have pressed the incorrect button, please press the correct button now. The voting has closed. The staff will now present the results to me.
I now have the results. All nine provinces have voted in favour of the Bill, but we will not record Mpumalanga's vote because they didn't send a written mandate. You are aware that in terms of the law and the Rules, when we pass a Bill there must be a written mandate. In other words, eight provinces have voted in favour and therefore the Bill is agreed to in terms of section 65 of the Constitution. [Applause.]
IN FAVOUR: Eastern Cape, Free State, Gauteng, KwaZulu-Natal, Limpopo, Northern Cape, North West, Western Cape.
National House of Traditional Leaders Bill accordingly agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.
Question put: That the Traditional Leadership and Governance Framework Bill be agreed to.