Hon members, I have been waiting for hon Ellis to come back. I do sympathise with hon Ellis when he says we have been repeating these procedures for almost 15 years. However, hon Ellis should also derive solace from waiting.
I was told that a man was saying, "Look, I have 15 years' experience in this. And he was told, "Look, you have one year's experience repeated for 15 years." So we have that one year's experience and we have been repeating this for 15 years! [Interjections.]